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explode the bazaars or e-ticket ride

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into the world of the paranoid

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strap yourself Ian as we traverse the

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universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

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ghosts Lost Worlds

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cryptozoology as well as other

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dimensions it's time to take back the

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night last night now your electrifying

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hosts of exploring the bizarre Timothy

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- Tim what what are we doing this far

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underground it's like we're in some kind

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of Frankenstein Factory oh look there's

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even there seems to be an alien corpse

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on that examination table over there oh

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well glad you noticed it Tim no our

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guest tonight believes that eons ago

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ancient aliens kinetically engineered

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the human race so we're kind of a lab

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rat back so I guess you could say we're

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trying to get even by back-engineering

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some of their scientists creating a race

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of altered terrestrial loans isn't that

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clever of may happen oh this is this is

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just too bizarre it's a real freak show

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you have going on here

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electricity lighting up everything and

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what happens if one of those alien

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creatures comes alive and he's not so

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friendly that's why I have you here mmm

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need all the protection we can get no no

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let me get back to let me get back to my

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lab work Tim hand me a bucket of those

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nuts and bolts over there yeah look he

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is kind of twitching a little is it

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yeah oh well we'll get this figured out

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sooner or later three more lightning

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bolts through the cranium and in he'll

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be all set you might want to take over

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the show they'll come to think of it huh

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we don't want that do we

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no no yeah the listeners definitely

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don't want that

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I'm glad to hear that well here we are

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another another another jolly night

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which is I look forward to this evening

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with great anticipation and tonight

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we're going to have a wild and crazy

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show because we've got a while then a

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great guest on is always we brings in

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the past best best in paranormal talk

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and paranormal entertainment so what's

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going out there in Jasper in the

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well justjust a another beautiful day in

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the neighborhood Tim well there you go

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you got a mr. Rogers out there mm-hmm no

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no I'm mr. Rogers got my sweater sweater

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on and my house slippers and I'm ready

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to go but I I know you've been busy busy

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busy what have you been working on oh

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well we're working on our our new book

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which is about area 51 and hopefully now

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not hopefully we will well we'll get it

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out really soon should be are ready to

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go in another week or so I'd say oh well

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I hope so because we want to get out to

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Rachel and join the Stampede but enough

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of our enough of our idle chatter

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because we want to roll right along here

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and so Tim to number two tell us a guess

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this evening and what we will be

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chitchat shattering about oh well very

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happy to say that tonight our guest is

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lawn Strickler Lanza been on the show

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who are a number of times and we're

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always how always happy to have him with

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us to talk about just all these a

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different 40 in subjects that are so

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near and dear to our heart

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so now lawn is a cryptid researcher an

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intuitive who writes and emitters on a

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variety of 14 subjects and Alana's a

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resident of Hanover Pennsylvania and at

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an early age he realized that he had the

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ability to sense spiritual entity energy

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and found that's useful in the field

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while conducting investigations most of

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his early work concentrated on spiritual

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activity at historical locations in

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Maryland and Pennsylvania in particular

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locations where traumatic events have

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occurred now in 1981 lon experienced a

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Bigfoot account encounter near

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Scottsville Maryland while fish

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at the South branch of the Patapsco

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River you have to correct me on that

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we're on a lot of I said that wrong as a

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result of this incident he included

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cryptid studies as an important part of

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his research now on is the host of the

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web cast arcane radio heard live Friday

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nights at 9:00 p.m. Eastern on

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paranormal king.com and his latest book

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which we'll be talking with him about

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tonight is alien disclosure experiencers

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expose reality so on thank you very much

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for being with us again on exploring

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yeah thanks reality and Tim you can see

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I'm a wild and crazy guy it's alright

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okay we'll go very good I've heard I've

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heard rumours from the cryptids in your

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neighborhood that they say that you're

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pretty pretty out there but that's good

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because that keeps them on their toes

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and they've got some pretty big toes all

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three of them yeah you know one we think

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of you as the Bigfoot in Mothman man but

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you're a lot more than that and I think

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this new book shows that I haven't had I

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must have been some pleasure reading it

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yet but why don't you tell us a little

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bit about what this is about because I

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guess it's not your typical let's get

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out and find you know Bigfoot well you

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guys known me long enough to know that

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if it's interesting I'm gonna try to get

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in on it and see what's going on and you

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know I guess but you can say my forte

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has been crypto cryptids and and other

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unexplained beans and such but the the

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abduction in alien encounter genre akane

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hit me right smack in the face back in

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2010-2011 when i started to talk to

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David Eckhart he was annex

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parents are an abductee from around

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Pensacola Florida so I've been you know

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I've been you know investigating the

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things that he's been going through now

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for almost a decade and of course you

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know being on the blog and you know

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doing that almost every day I do run

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into a lot of other experiences and

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abductees as well so I figured it was

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about time to go ahead and put about two

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decades worth of research into the book

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and that's why I decided to write it and

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and what would you say is the the the

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thrust of the the book what do you

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reveal to us well you know I I believe

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that it's it's time for people who have

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actually had experiences to be heard and

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to be believed because you know there's

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there's a stigma with people who have

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said they were abducted and unless you

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really sit down and listen to them and

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of course I've also had experiences

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myself it's uh I believe that is

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actually the time to start buying into

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what they're telling us and you know now

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you know and but within reason but I and

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I think they got a lot to offer to us

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and I think the truth is actually coming

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from those who have experienced it now I

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realize we only have an hour here but

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what what was your earliest experience I

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mean what do you gather from all of this

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who's taking you and where do you go

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where did you go to well it actually

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started around 2015 I was you know after

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decades of research investigation and

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then I had personal experience I

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believed that an early interaction

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between Earth's inhabitants and

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otherworldly beings actually occurred

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millennium BCE you know I don't think

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it's the only interchange but I think

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it's probably one of the most

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influential I you know as a result of me

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being able to remote view and and you

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know I actually do sessions with others

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and then thinking I'm sure that I had

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three personal non-terrestrial

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encounters only one was throat with a

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lost-time event but in one occasion I

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was taken to a location I don't know if

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it was on a craft or it was somewhere

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else entirely but there were three tall

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greys these were these were also the

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same trio of non-trust Jews who actually

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and I actually encountered at home well

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anyway I was shown in historical

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scenario it was displayed to me by them

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in this scenario I witnessed a colossal

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disc-shaped craft descend and land in

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the area of present-day Nile River Delta

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now at that time this location was

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completely encircled by the

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Mediterranean Sea and that this craft

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was later transformed into a massive

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Island this was the genesis of a great

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empire that encompassed the surrounding

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indigenous people and lamb the rulers of

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this Empire were the occupants of the

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craft that landed there their knowledge

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was disseminated throughout the region

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the bloodline marriage with the native

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people now the aliens communicated to me

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that this Empire was the nexus of

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several dominant and lesser

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civilizations and the first thing I

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asked them was was this Atlantis but

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there was no response in my question I

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witnessed representations of various

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cultures that had to look developed over

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the millennia no it was this other

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script on a screen that you saw this or

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implanted in your mind

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it was a projection on a surface a

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vertical surface I don't know if it was

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a screen or what it was but it was very

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clear and as as this image was shown to

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me they were explaining to me to let but

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telepathy I mean I actually heard voices

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coming I believe from them in English

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telling me what was going on and now or

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did they tell you their point of origin

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and why would they be okay so they came

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here eons ago right

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have they stayed around oh yeah oh

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they've been here they've been here ever

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they first came here and like I said are

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they hiding from us

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oh they're living among us yeah it's

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pretty it's pretty obvious to me after

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this and other other work that I had

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done that they are definitely living

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among us and are integrated within our

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society can we tell is there so uh now

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you say they look like kind of like

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these Gray's well obviously they're not

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what if they were walking around looking

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like that we we would be able to pay a

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pickup you know pick them out but

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obviously they camouflage their their

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appearance yeah they're able to

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shape-shift or either that they're

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engineered into a being it looks very

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very human and why why this particular

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interest I mean the universe is vast why

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would they say ah let's land the the

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over there on that little pebble and in

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in space I think a lot of it has to do

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with there and being intrigued by the

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human species I don't know they want our

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women yes we pointed that out in our

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book screwed by the aliens yes and you

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know the one thing I I do believe after

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all this I've looked in

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- is that for some reason I believe

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they're somewhat jealous of us you know

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if you go back to the Book of Enoch and

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you talk about the Fallen Angels and

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such that they they incorporate in with

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the human females and and such the

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Nephilim and that will store it but I do

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believe that they are jealous of the

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humans for one specific reason we have

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the ability to be an esoteric being in

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other words we actually go on to another

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level after we pass I don't think

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they're able to do that is that right

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yep I don't think now or do they have in

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a lot of these in cases where people

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have been abducted they talk about how

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non-emotional these creatures are that

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they're almost like a hive of insects do

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they have a social structure or outside

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of coming in and camouflaging themselves

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here and where would they be I mean can

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we I know we hear we hear talk about you

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know certain bloodlines and even the the

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Queen being a shape-shifter a serpent

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you know but I don't know if I've

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necessarily believed in those stories or

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not but you can never you can never

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really tell what's the possible and well

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you know when I started talking to david

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eckardt about his his abductions and his

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encounters the he had mentioned that

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when they started abducting him through

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a portal now what they would do is they

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were open up a portal in his bedroom and

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they would take he and his family

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through that but for whatever reason he

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still doesn't understand why and it's

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been almost a decade now although

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actually it was long before I ever met

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him it's almost 15 years they they were

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taking him to a location and and this

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these were reptilian type beings and it

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was always one reptilian who was

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involved with him and as David used to

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say he was just a grouch he didn't

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really seem like he wanted to be there

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and do that but he tolerated because

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that was what he was supposed to do and

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they would take him to a location

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initially that he believed was an

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underground huge underground cavern on

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on earth and that this cavern was a type

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of mining operation possibly a

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construction operation because there

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were also habitate there was also

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habitation by families and pods of other

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reptilians so they basically ran to show

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they were the overseers they they had

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other alien species there working for

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them but the most the most horrifying

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thing was that there were a lot of

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humans there as well and they were

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basically working as slave labor oh boy

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yeah so you wouldn't say then that these

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are these guys are necessarily overly

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friendly no no not not in his instance I

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mean you know he was showing a lot of

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different things and and in fact he was

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witnessed actual experimentation and

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disposal of humans these roles yeah

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these are human beings focal well they

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would take certain humans for

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experimentation and hehe

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described it as there being a reptilian

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I guess a doctor or a reptilian he would

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actually put these human on a table on

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its side and literally cut open the back

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and they would reach in and pull out

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certain parts of the body and when you

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know and they would they wouldn't die

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they were not dead and in fact he also

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was able to see this disposal of these

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beat of these humans as they literally

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walked up to this huge cylinder that was

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several stories high they wouldn't jump

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into it and float down into an area

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where these I don't know what they were

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like long tubes or whatever but they

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would actually go into these humans and

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take out all the moisture and then they

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would float down into an incinerator

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like geez yeah I that kind of sounds

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like a level of seven at the Dulce base

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now I know in the book that Scott

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Morales did their force the alien

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bloodlust we even talked about a human

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as sacrifice and there's one story that

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John keel had related to me where I talk

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show the personality a lady from my Long

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Island her name is JP apparel I don't

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know if she's still in the business or

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if she's even with us but she went with

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these with these beings well they they

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were kind of ordinary and looking but

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they they took her to this underground

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facility but it looked like a almost

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like a Oh what are these storage units

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you know in the in the in the in the

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suburbs and and there were people laid

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out there on medical slabs or tables and

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they were drawing blood from the the

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bodies of these humans I guess a whole

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row of very very spooky you know here we

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we just did a book on the solar council

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the

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Brinkerhoff was on last week and talks

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about these friendly beings coming here

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from other worlds in space in this

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Federation of Planets but boy it does

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seem most certainly that a lot of these

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guys are up to no good

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and people always ask me well you know

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how do we know the good guys from the

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bad guys and I said well I don't I I

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guess by their deeds show you know them

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if they start you know wanting to suck

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your blood or inviting you for dinner

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I'm probably you you should avoid them

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you know but now you're yeah well the

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david has also stated then that all

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these humans were disposed of some were

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processed for food as well he also saw

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that you know I've been I've been

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dealing with David now for a long time

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and there's so much that I haven't

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talked about because you know I tried to

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I tried to present it in this book I

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wouldn't say sanitized but more you know

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more steady to a point where you know

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you could understand what I was actually

404
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saying have you had have you had him on

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your show yes I have Oh we'll have to

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try to get him on as a guest I I'm not

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that I mean I've heard the name but I'm

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not familiar with the the experiences

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and I would certainly call them you know

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extreme now some of these are beings

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that you have investigated you know I'm

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thinking of the winged wonders creature

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contributed some material to that book

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are they in any way related to these

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author terrestrials they may be I

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believe there are a lot of levels of non

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terrestrial beings if you're referring

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to the winged humanoids in particular

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those we'd experienced in Chicago I do

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believe those are intimate dimensional

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beings I believe there's a possibility

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that they may be related somehow to

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aliens but I really don't have any proof

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of that

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you know I that's why and that's why I

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didn't mention any of that in this book

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so all right Tim before you continue

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this question we need to go to our

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bottom of the hour break so when we come

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back we'll continue our conversation

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with myself Tim Beckley and Juan

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Strickler

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on exploring the bizarre system now back

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to exploring the bizarre with two of the

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most electrifying researchers in the

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Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca Lee

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and Kings lists welcome back to

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exploring the bizarre I'm Tim Schwarz

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tonight we're talking with Ron Strickler

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and his new book alien disclosure

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experiences exposed reality so long I

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wanted to ask you and you know I've

443
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watched this subject before with all of

444
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the various experiences that people have

445
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had over the years coming into contact

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with these

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yeah I'll say non-human entities but you

448
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know we're not quite sure what they are

449
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but with the exception of really just a

450
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few cases the majority of these beans

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these entities they have a humanoid form

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I need to have you know two arms two

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legs have a head well you know two eyes

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they they look so much like us and if

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these are actual extraterrestrials

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beings that evolved on a planet in

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another solar system

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someplace why do they look so much like

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us form you know what we know at least

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our limited experience with life on

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earth you wouldn't think that

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something would evolve that would look

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so much like us Minh in fact a lot of

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times so so much like us that day as you

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said earlier they could actually

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intermingle with us and for that reason

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you know I believe that the aliens are

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nonterrestrials that we see that are

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presented to us are actually evolved

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humans from the future or possibly of

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the past I think they are able somehow

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to come back and it's been so much time

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since their existence and our existence

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I think they evolved somehow and I'm

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just not saying grace I'm talking about

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several types of humanoid species right

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right and you know I mean if our

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listeners don't don't realize this you

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know there there's a whole pantheon of

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humanoids seen coming out of of UFOs I

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mean you know you you have the greys

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which really are just kind of a recent

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entry in the whole gila faux field you

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know before we have the space brothers

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which you know we're tall Nordic looking

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types of beans but you also have giants

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and and admit it little people you know

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what have you I mean you know you could

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write a whole book on just all of the

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different types of creatures seen that

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are involved with the UFO phenomenon

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yeah I mean there are there are various

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forms are usually humanoid but there

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there have been some cases where they

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are a little bit different than humanoid

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III if you read the book you'll remember

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the the sighting of this La Biche

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looking being possibly was two of them

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in an area near Phoenix and Surprise

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Arizona where this woman had actually

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seen these two entities out her window

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during into the into the window they

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asked they just look like blobs but they

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had a human form she didn't notice any

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legs but that's probably the most

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different or non humanoid type being

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that I've ever been told about or have

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talked to an experience or about and of

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course it it has been presented by a

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number of different researchers that

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when we do see these beans we may not be

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necessarily seeing them in their actual

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form that's yeah that you know they they

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either are able to project an image into

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our minds or actually you know

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physically shape-shift well you know I

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actually believe that the the alien

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beings that were presented to the early

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Egyptians were actually presented to

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them in the humanoid form but with the

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heads of animals mm-hmm as such what

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their religion calls you know they're

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their deities their deities or these

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human-animal mix I I believe a lot of

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that or Chalmers if you want to call

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them that I believe they were presented

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to them like that because it would be

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more we're much more easier to you know

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to get them to kind of come along with

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the program I guess that's what it what

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you would say well and and of course as

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as you said at the beginning of your

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book I mean we've had contacts with

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these beans whatever they are for a very

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long long time and in fact they may have

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been responsible for us being here on

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this planet so I mean you know it could

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be the reason that they look so much

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like us is because they are us yeah and

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you know

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we've heard for years about the missing

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link Wow

543
00:30:16,919 --> 00:30:13,219
you know the missing link might be

544
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:16,929
something other than what an evolved

545
00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:20,089
human it may be an actual intervention

546
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:24,190
of an alien what are the things that

547
00:30:34,959 --> 00:30:29,440
from your book that a lot of these cases

548
00:30:40,109 --> 00:30:34,969
involves just some really high

549
00:30:42,819 --> 00:30:40,119
strangeness events that that are almost

550
00:30:46,259 --> 00:30:42,829
well I mean they really are I mean

551
00:30:48,939 --> 00:30:46,269
they're they seem to have a paranormal a

552
00:30:51,489 --> 00:30:48,949
feature about them I mean you you have

553
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:51,499
these people and that's what that's one

554
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:52,609
of the things that I love about your

555
00:30:58,299 --> 00:30:55,609
book is that I mean these are the actual

556
00:30:59,979 --> 00:30:58,309
experiences from people who I mean you

557
00:31:03,009 --> 00:30:59,989
know you did not go go out and you know

558
00:31:04,629 --> 00:31:03,019
solicit and offer to pay for these

559
00:31:07,539 --> 00:31:04,639
stories these people you know came to

560
00:31:14,409 --> 00:31:07,549
you and and and brought them to you as

561
00:31:18,099 --> 00:31:14,419
they actually remember it but so many of

562
00:31:21,099 --> 00:31:18,109
these events I mean while people are

563
00:31:25,989 --> 00:31:21,109
going through them you can almost

564
00:31:28,569 --> 00:31:25,999
interchange extraterrestrials aliens who

565
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:28,579
you know what have you for ghosts and

566
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:31,369
spirits yeah you know that does happen

567
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:34,159
in fact when I first met David at court

568
00:31:40,689 --> 00:31:38,809
I wasn't sure if he was dealing with

569
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:40,699
aliens or not because of some of the

570
00:31:47,409 --> 00:31:43,609
stuff he was telling me it sounded like

571
00:31:49,719 --> 00:31:47,419
spirit activity mm-hmm but of course he

572
00:31:52,979 --> 00:31:49,729
did have the the photographic evidence

573
00:31:56,589 --> 00:31:52,989
and some of the and you know some other

574
00:32:00,819 --> 00:31:56,599
instances he had a video with the sounds

575
00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:00,829
that were so eerie like and you know but

576
00:32:08,609 --> 00:32:03,409
I had to basically for the first four or

577
00:32:13,239 --> 00:32:08,619
five months of talking with him I had to

578
00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:13,249
kind of clear it being you know cleared

579
00:32:20,259 --> 00:32:16,190
out of being a you know actual spirit

580
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:20,269
activity at first so when I was finally

581
00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:21,890
convinced that it was

582
00:32:27,490 --> 00:32:24,620
and then we went forward but no I died

583
00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:27,500
actually did I actually did believe it

584
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:34,040
may have been dr. Leo sprinkle he he

585
00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:38,450
speculated and in fact he had witnesses

586
00:32:46,860 --> 00:32:42,230
who that he had put under hypnosis who

587
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:46,870
had basically told him that that these

588
00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:50,240
he called neck stressed riyals actually

589
00:32:57,490 --> 00:32:54,590
their science involved using what we

590
00:32:59,680 --> 00:32:57,500
would call the the paranormal or you

591
00:33:02,830 --> 00:32:59,690
know or supernatural forces of course

592
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:02,840
you know that their technology is so far

593
00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:05,890
advanced that what we what we would call

594
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:08,990
paranormal now is nothing more than then

595
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:13,490
you know science for them but the way

596
00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:15,890
that they are able to travel from

597
00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:18,800
location to location involves basically

598
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:22,460
shifting out of the material world and

599
00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:25,070
into the astral planes and back again

600
00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:29,420
okay yeah that mean that that is a

601
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:31,280
distinct possibility and I do believe

602
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:35,360
that most of the travel most of the

603
00:33:43,390 --> 00:33:40,450
means of getting here are not through

604
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:43,400
interstellar travel and craft

605
00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:46,970
I believe it's it's a wormhole or some

606
00:33:53,710 --> 00:33:50,870
type of gateway between either parallel

607
00:33:57,700 --> 00:33:53,720
worlds of parallel universes or even

608
00:34:00,760 --> 00:33:57,710
possibly other planets you just say that

609
00:34:04,030 --> 00:34:00,770
these alien beings that present

610
00:34:10,740 --> 00:34:04,040
themselves to us are not actual

611
00:34:14,889 --> 00:34:13,300
exactly exactly and I mean that that was

612
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:14,899
something that you know I referred to

613
00:34:18,370 --> 00:34:16,820
you know at the beginning of this this

614
00:34:20,409 --> 00:34:18,380
segment and whether or not our

615
00:34:25,570 --> 00:34:20,419
perception of the universe in this

616
00:34:28,270 --> 00:34:25,580
reality is is I don't want to say wrong

617
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:28,280
but you know I mean we just you know we

618
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:32,480
were just not really aware of how the

619
00:34:38,589 --> 00:34:35,119
universe actually exists and and

620
00:34:40,499 --> 00:34:38,599
our place in it and and whether or not

621
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:40,509
these beans that we would call

622
00:34:47,889 --> 00:34:43,569
extraterrestrials aren't like you said

623
00:34:49,809 --> 00:34:47,899
you know dimension time-space you know I

624
00:34:51,819 --> 00:34:49,819
mean that those are terms that to them

625
00:34:55,989 --> 00:34:51,829
are probably meaningless and they're

626
00:34:59,799 --> 00:34:55,999
able to travel into areas of this

627
00:35:04,089 --> 00:34:59,809
universe that I mean it's our minds just

628
00:35:07,859 --> 00:35:04,099
aren't made to to conceive it right

629
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:07,869
right yeah I agree with that I mean

630
00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:10,609
there's so much we need we need to learn

631
00:35:16,989 --> 00:35:13,369
I mean we can we can sit here and

632
00:35:20,289 --> 00:35:16,999
discuss what we think these things are

633
00:35:22,450 --> 00:35:20,299
we can write books about it based on

634
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:22,460
what other people have said has happened

635
00:35:30,099 --> 00:35:26,720
but until there's more proof and more

636
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:30,109
evidence you know we're kind of you know

637
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:31,940
we're kind of left to our own devices on

638
00:35:38,049 --> 00:35:35,450
this well it's uh it's like our

639
00:35:40,210 --> 00:35:38,059
ancestors climbing a tree and throwing

640
00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:40,220
rocks at them absolutely you know who

641
00:35:46,749 --> 00:35:42,019
are kind of in that position right now

642
00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:46,759
you know we're we're lighting candles to

643
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:49,700
keep the darkness away and all the

644
00:36:00,670 --> 00:35:55,930
things that occupy those dark corners so

645
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:00,680
from from the cases that that you have

646
00:36:09,249 --> 00:36:05,210
in this book is there one or a couple in

647
00:36:12,309 --> 00:36:09,259
there that really stand out to you as as

648
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,319
us being oh wow this this is this is

649
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:14,480
really significant this is I'm glad I

650
00:36:20,799 --> 00:36:18,650
had this you know in this book well the

651
00:36:25,569 --> 00:36:20,809
one case that probably deeply affected

652
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:25,579
me more than any was a was an encounter

653
00:36:33,789 --> 00:36:29,690
ant and later abduction of a woman in

654
00:36:37,809 --> 00:36:33,799
Washington State and this was presented

655
00:36:38,799 --> 00:36:37,819
to me before I even met David at court

656
00:36:41,859 --> 00:36:38,809
mm-hmm

657
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:41,869
this woman's name was Mandy this she

658
00:36:48,130 --> 00:36:46,249
gave me a call in July 2009 she stated

659
00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:48,140
to me that her life had become a living

660
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:48,920
hell that

661
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:50,450
you no longer to leave our house and

662
00:36:54,970 --> 00:36:53,090
evening and I mean she told me she's

663
00:36:58,720 --> 00:36:54,980
literally afraid of the dark and under

664
00:37:02,050 --> 00:36:58,730
siege in a room boom at night she lived

665
00:37:03,970 --> 00:37:02,060
in a farmhouse in a small town in East

666
00:37:07,090 --> 00:37:03,980
Central Washington less than a mile from

667
00:37:10,690 --> 00:37:07,100
the Idaho border about two weeks prior

668
00:37:12,370 --> 00:37:10,700
to contacting me her and her mother had

669
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:12,380
noticed bright red and white lights

670
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:14,330
hovering above the coeur d'alene

671
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:17,570
mountains in idaho they could see it at

672
00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:19,730
a distance and as they watched the light

673
00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:22,540
mandy began feeling dizzy and fearful

674
00:37:27,970 --> 00:37:25,670
that night she had a horrific nightmare

675
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:27,980
that involved costed flashing lights and

676
00:37:33,970 --> 00:37:31,490
loud mechanical noises the next morning

677
00:37:35,710 --> 00:37:33,980
she woke feeling nauseous and

678
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:35,720
lightheaded she's a teacher said she had

679
00:37:40,540 --> 00:37:38,990
to call in sick now by the next day man

680
00:37:42,130 --> 00:37:40,550
too began to feel better but the lights

681
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:42,140
are the mountains continued on for

682
00:37:47,980 --> 00:37:45,290
several nights she no longer had any

683
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:47,990
dreams but she still had this sense of

684
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:50,720
fear lingering with her her mother

685
00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:52,250
thought that she was just simply

686
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:55,400
overreacting then a few nights later her

687
00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:56,650
and her mother were in the kitchen

688
00:38:01,840 --> 00:37:59,330
cleaning up after a late dinner that

689
00:38:03,550 --> 00:38:01,850
began hearing popping sounds coming from

690
00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:03,560
the backyard and as they looked out the

691
00:38:07,810 --> 00:38:06,380
window they both noticed hundreds of red

692
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:07,820
and white lights flying in all

693
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:10,250
directions each time a pair of these

694
00:38:14,110 --> 00:38:11,570
lights would collide there'd be a

695
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:14,120
distinct popping sound samman you ran

696
00:38:16,570 --> 00:38:15,530
into the living room looked out the

697
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:16,580
window and there were red and white

698
00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:18,560
lights everywhere by the road and in the

699
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:22,070
field across the road her mother picked

700
00:38:26,170 --> 00:38:23,630
up the telephone in order to call the

701
00:38:27,850 --> 00:38:26,180
police but there was no dial tone by

702
00:38:28,450 --> 00:38:27,860
that time the lights in the house began

703
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:28,460
to flicker

704
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,770
there were also strange sounds coming

705
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:32,720
from the roof similar to scratching

706
00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:35,330
sounds this continued for about five

707
00:38:39,820 --> 00:38:37,460
minutes and suddenly stopped

708
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:39,830
they were both confused and scared the

709
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:42,050
film was now working so her mother

710
00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:44,150
decides no sense to even try to call the

711
00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:47,000
police Mandy walked outside to see if

712
00:38:51,310 --> 00:38:48,740
there's any indication of what occurred

713
00:38:53,530 --> 00:38:51,320
but everything seemed fine other than a

714
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:53,540
slight other odor in the air that she

715
00:38:59,110 --> 00:38:55,970
described as smelling like burn motor

716
00:39:02,320 --> 00:38:59,120
oil now by the next night at

717
00:39:02,830 --> 00:39:02,330
approximately 10:30 p.m. Mandy was

718
00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:02,840
getting rid

719
00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:04,520
for bed while standing in front of her

720
00:39:10,330 --> 00:39:07,700
bathroom mirror she knows - loud thuds

721
00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:10,340
on the roof she went into her mother's

722
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:12,260
room to see if she had heard the sound

723
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,450
but she was fast asleep and while

724
00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:16,400
walking in the upstairs hallway towards

725
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,680
her room she heard that were more thuds

726
00:39:22,330 --> 00:39:20,720
and roof as well scampering sounds in

727
00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:22,340
the Attic

728
00:39:26,050 --> 00:39:24,080
she looked at her bedroom one and once

729
00:39:27,370 --> 00:39:26,060
again witnessed hundreds of small red

730
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:27,380
and white lights flying about in

731
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:30,770
different directions the the noises had

732
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:33,110
then weakened her mother she they both

733
00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:35,270
yelled for each other as all the

734
00:39:40,270 --> 00:39:38,270
electricity just suddenly cut off they

735
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:40,280
ran into Mandy's room and said nervously

736
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:42,110
knit bed the thuds in the roof and the

737
00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:45,710
scampering attic continued this went on

738
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,200
for about an hour then suddenly the

739
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:50,560
lights came back on the noises stopped

740
00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:53,510
she many later told me this commotion

741
00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:55,700
went on for at least an hour neither

742
00:39:59,590 --> 00:39:57,740
then got much sleep at night so a few

743
00:40:02,350 --> 00:39:59,600
days later Mandy called me by telephone

744
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:02,360
I was referred to her by paranormal

745
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:05,690
investigator in Spokane as soon as I

746
00:40:09,850 --> 00:40:07,310
began talking to Mandy and her mother I

747
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:09,860
sense that this wasn't a ruling of the

748
00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:12,920
mill I'll explain to counter they had

749
00:40:18,190 --> 00:40:15,800
once again experienced similar acted

750
00:40:19,810 --> 00:40:18,200
with the previous night Mandy commented

751
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:19,820
that she felt like they were both in

752
00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:21,890
danger and asked if I heard of similar

753
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:24,680
experiences I was kind of dumbfounded

754
00:40:32,170 --> 00:40:30,320
but I was sure that this may eventually

755
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:32,180
lead to physical in you know

756
00:40:36,850 --> 00:40:34,370
intervention but I didn't mention

757
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:36,860
anything which I know I think maybe I

758
00:40:43,570 --> 00:40:40,160
should but I believe that we talked

759
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:43,580
about three hours a night and there was

760
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:45,170
nothing exceptional about her mother

761
00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:46,640
they had lived there since Mandy was

762
00:40:54,430 --> 00:40:51,740
born and they did she just wanted to do

763
00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:54,440
why is this happening does my you know I

764
00:40:57,790 --> 00:40:56,360
thought they were probably being singled

765
00:41:01,810 --> 00:40:57,800
out but then again I didn't want to

766
00:41:04,750 --> 00:41:01,820
scare them and but little did I know

767
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:04,760
that would be my last contact with Mandy

768
00:41:08,830 --> 00:41:07,310
hmm after I got off the telephone with

769
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:08,840
Mandy and her mother I started to

770
00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:11,210
examine several incidents in my database

771
00:41:16,359 --> 00:41:14,030
looking for an answer

772
00:41:18,279 --> 00:41:16,369
the next day I expected

773
00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:18,289
receive a follow-up telephone call from

774
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:20,630
Andy in fact I called and left a message

775
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:23,839
asking her you know to let me know if

776
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,670
there have been any further activity

777
00:41:31,479 --> 00:41:27,920
I waited for three days and no phone

778
00:41:33,969 --> 00:41:31,489
call or an email then on a Sunday

779
00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:33,979
afternoon the anticipated call came it

780
00:41:38,829 --> 00:41:36,380
was Mandy's mother she apologized for

781
00:41:40,839 --> 00:41:38,839
not getting back to me there was an

782
00:41:43,450 --> 00:41:40,849
obvious distress in her voice and her

783
00:41:46,959 --> 00:41:43,460
brief pause she called me said Mandy is

784
00:41:47,979 --> 00:41:46,969
missing hmm I got a sudden sick feeling

785
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:47,989
in my stomach

786
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:50,089
Mandy had going to bed not long after we

787
00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:51,729
had talked on the telephone

788
00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:54,200
her mother remained downstairs in the

789
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,390
room watching television about 11:00

790
00:42:01,599 --> 00:41:58,640
p.m. she decided to go up into her room

791
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,609
so as she passed Mandy's bedroom she

792
00:42:05,499 --> 00:42:03,440
noticed light coming from the bottom of

793
00:42:07,630 --> 00:42:05,509
her door she knocked on the door in

794
00:42:09,999 --> 00:42:07,640
order to check for her on her and there

795
00:42:12,489 --> 00:42:10,009
was no response sash you opened the door

796
00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:12,499
the room is completely dark she flicked

797
00:42:18,459 --> 00:42:14,630
on the light switch by the door and

798
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:18,469
observed that Mandy was not in bed she

799
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:20,089
called out to Mandy but there was no

800
00:42:25,539 --> 00:42:22,910
response panic began to sudden as she

801
00:42:27,459 --> 00:42:25,549
literally screamed Mandy's name while

802
00:42:30,370 --> 00:42:27,469
running throughout the house there was

803
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:30,380
no tracer or she was gone the local

804
00:42:34,059 --> 00:42:32,089
authorities had no explanation all

805
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:34,069
Mandy's personal items including her car

806
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,849
remained she just simply vanished and

807
00:42:40,989 --> 00:42:39,440
since she was an adult that really was

808
00:42:43,329 --> 00:42:40,999
unless that the police could do about it

809
00:42:49,059 --> 00:42:43,339
they suspected she just took off for

810
00:42:51,489 --> 00:42:49,069
someone and you know at this point Mandy

811
00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:51,499
has never returned home and the last

812
00:42:55,989 --> 00:42:53,150
time I made an inquiry with the

813
00:43:02,200 --> 00:42:55,999
Washington State Police her case remains

814
00:43:04,450 --> 00:43:02,210
unsolved so was her car still there or

815
00:43:07,569 --> 00:43:04,460
yeah she left her car all her effects

816
00:43:10,499 --> 00:43:07,579
and everything Jesus fell off one of

817
00:43:17,859 --> 00:43:10,509
these are like missing people shows are

818
00:43:21,999 --> 00:43:17,869
missing a 909 for I had a lot of guilt

819
00:43:23,769 --> 00:43:22,009
because of that you know I I really did

820
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:23,779
seriously think about not taking any

821
00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:28,160
more experience or cases as far as

822
00:43:33,310 --> 00:43:30,260
possible alien abductions

823
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:33,320
and the stigmas kind of always remained

824
00:43:38,109 --> 00:43:36,170
with me but I decided that it was gonna

825
00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:38,119
help anybody if I you know just went

826
00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:40,660
ahead and just told people I was good I

827
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:43,670
listened to what they had to say and so

828
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:45,850
but that one that one has stuck with me

829
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:49,010
and I and I bet that the phenomena

830
00:43:52,359 --> 00:43:50,690
ceased after she disappeared

831
00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:52,369
don't yeah I haven't heard a thing about

832
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:56,180
it mm-hm yeah no that's well and I mean

833
00:43:59,530 --> 00:43:58,250
with the exception of the the person

834
00:44:03,970 --> 00:43:59,540
actually disappearing and never showing

835
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:03,980
up the the the the events leading up to

836
00:44:10,210 --> 00:44:08,090
that are so similar I mean you know so

837
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:10,220
similar to many of the other cases that

838
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:12,530
you have in your book uh-huh yeah and

839
00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:15,410
you know at first like when she first

840
00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:18,070
started telling me about the sounds and

841
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,750
stuff in the Attic and first thing I

842
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:22,640
thought well maybe this is paranormal

843
00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:25,369
maybe this is spirit activity and like

844
00:44:30,190 --> 00:44:28,190
you saying it in some cases it does kind

845
00:44:33,820 --> 00:44:30,200
of resemble that but I just had this

846
00:44:35,410 --> 00:44:33,830
just not my stomach and there's thought

847
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:35,420
that yeah this is something different

848
00:44:41,859 --> 00:44:39,290
this may get bad um recently

849
00:44:43,810 --> 00:44:41,869
it did turn out that way alright well

850
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:43,820
alright lon we have about three minutes

851
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:46,880
left in the show unfortunately and so

852
00:44:52,810 --> 00:44:49,760
why don't you let her listeners know

853
00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:52,820
where they can find you online

854
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:55,910
your your your blog your your radio show

855
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,010
and your book where they can find that

856
00:45:04,180 --> 00:45:01,520
well my website is phantoms of monsters

857
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:04,190
comm it's a blog but I have a lot of

858
00:45:10,420 --> 00:45:06,710
other information there I do put out a

859
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:10,430
frankly I do another I do put out a free

860
00:45:15,930 --> 00:45:14,210
newsletter each day you just sign up for

861
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:15,940
it you know be in your mailbox I've

862
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:20,210
written seven books the last one as you

863
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:22,970
said was alien disclosure experiencers

864
00:45:28,690 --> 00:45:26,720
exposed reality it's available in Amazon

865
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:28,700
all you got to do is just search my name

866
00:45:36,010 --> 00:45:32,690
a lon Strickler it'll come up and I have

867
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:36,020
a radio show which is on each Friday

868
00:45:42,430 --> 00:45:39,440
night at 9 o'clock p.m. Eastern Time

869
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:42,440
it's called arcane radio and we tackled

870
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:44,089
a lot of the sub

871
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,510
I examine alright well and I just want

872
00:45:52,930 --> 00:45:49,520
everyone to know that I highly recommend

873
00:45:55,089 --> 00:45:52,940
all of Lon's books there they're all

874
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:55,099
just you know fantastic this your your

875
00:46:01,540 --> 00:45:58,970
latest one is is just just incredible

876
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:01,550
I've you know I enjoyed it and there's

877
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:06,079
just a lot of mystifying cases in it and

878
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:10,970
and Tim hopefully we'll have the area 51

879
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:16,490
book out in in no time long before the

880
00:46:25,530 --> 00:46:22,160
actual stampede I was just reading I was

881
00:46:28,510 --> 00:46:25,540
just reading here that the town of Nye

882
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:28,520
is not looking forward to the people

883
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:31,280
there showing up for the rock fest

884
00:46:35,890 --> 00:46:33,170
you know I could never understand this

885
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,900
people want to have a good time and even

886
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:38,240
if yeah you know so there there might be

887
00:46:47,530 --> 00:46:40,130
a little garbage on them there's no

888
00:46:50,650 --> 00:46:47,540
lawns out there the kids will move the

889
00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:50,660
rocks around the little the old folks

890
00:46:56,740 --> 00:46:53,240
will drink beer in alcohol and the

891
00:46:59,250 --> 00:46:56,750
youngsters will smoke pot and and so big

892
00:47:02,069 --> 00:46:59,260
whoopee who knows what the aliens will

893
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:02,079
will do they'll be hanging out there I'm

894
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:05,839
sure you know it should be a rather

895
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:07,970
interesting affair and it certainly will

896
00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:10,010
get a lot of coverage don't forget our

897
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:13,270
YouTube channel mr. UFO secret files and

898
00:47:19,660 --> 00:47:17,569
go to amazon.com and type in inner light

899
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:19,670
dance global communications and you'll

900
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:23,210
see 400 books and legal written by me

901
00:47:28,299 --> 00:47:26,210
and Tim yes thank you on good night

902
00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:28,309
thank you a night everybody good night

903
00:47:31,059 --> 00:47:30,020
Tina good night Alan good night Carol

904
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:31,069
good night Peter

905
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:40,400
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906
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907
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910
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911
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912
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914
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